Umthunzi Wentaba has been canned! Good! I’ve never watched it, but have heard/read that it was a full-on exposé of the sacred Xhosa circumcision rite.
How dare you!?
It was the June vac in 2001 and I was abruptly woken-up at 5am and thrown in the back of a van. My grandfather was there, watching on, as the van veered off to the most rural of
I can’t understand what people want to know about this particular practice. Do people want to parade it like they did Saartjie Baartman? Poke fun at it? Label it as barbaric and backward? Go on, knock yourselves out and please don’t try counter argue that people are dying there – I came back alive – it is only when it is done by an unqualified or inexperienced ‘ngcibi’ that death occurs. Besides how can you die when you have the equivalent of a nurse/ bodyguard/teacher in the form of ‘ukhanki’ or ‘ikhankatha’ right next to you - 24/7. People don’t know what goes on there. And those who die, were probably in the hands of people who didn’t either. What you see in the news and the mounting deaths are results of unqualified practitioners, unruly boys who want to become men without parental consent, or simply, ignorant parenting – parents have the ultimate say in where and who will be performing this rite on their child.
Back to the SABC - I thought most of the blacks there were Xhosa, clearly I was wrong and if they are, then they’re probably still boys or ‘amalulwane’ (fly-by-night-creatures) that chose the hospital route to their manhood. Clearly they would respect the sacredness of this practice if they knew what it entailed. Instead they choose to commodify and objectify what little sacredness our culture still holds most dear for its boys. The worst part is that the series Umthunzi Wentaba was produced by a woman - also black. Since when have women been part or known anything about ‘umaluko’!?.
Education and exposure to Western ideologies should not cloud or make one undermine their heritage, traditions and upbringing. If anything, it should make them appreciate it further...
Yazi as a young PROUD XHOSA WOMAN, i wholly agree with the notion that this series was in no way objective and aimed to portray this aspect of our culture as barbaric and backward. Centuries ago the british settlers tried to convince us that we were heathens and savages for carrying on with such a practise. One would think in this day and age with our 'tolerance'such programmes that go against fundamental principles(secrecy) of a particular tradition of a nation, would not be aired. The SABC has been a disgrace especially the Xhosa 'men' there who authorised and actually mandated this programme. I understand and accept that what goes on 'esuthwini' is not for me to know as a woman and i urge other people especially those of other cultures who are forcing the issue of disclosure, to respect that as well. At the end of the day this is a Xhosa tradition and although we appreciate your desire to try and understand where we are coming from some things you just have to accept without knowing. It's all about RESPECT.
Posted by noxie — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
Look, I get the whole secrecy thing but come on! I really dont think they went overboard. I mean it is common knowledge that the guys go up there and get their thingies chopped off but that is all we saw anyways. The real stuff that I have heard about (which I wont mention)was not exposed. And yes people die up there - its also a known fact. It wasnt that bad.The show is make sure that the traditionalist improve the tradition because people die.For heaven's sake we have kids dying in schools just because a teacher hit them with a stick on the hand.We are a sickly nation.Its about time people take precautions. Most poeple have RTC (Resistance to Change)!! GET OVER IT AND GET IT RIGHT!!!!!
Posted by Sindi — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
MH...BENDISAYILANDELA NGOMDLA OMKHULU KAKHULU NANGONGONA BELIMASIKIZI NJE.LIWUTSALILE KE NOKO UMDLA WAM KODWA INGATHI KWEZINYE INDAWO BELINESIBAXO.KUKHO KE NOKO ENDIKUPHAWULEYO NENDIKUFUNDILEYO NGALO UMDLALO.INGATHI ABAPHATHI BE SABC NGEXA ELIZAYO BANGANGA FOCUS ON THE XHOSA CULTURE ONLY BCOZ NGOKU ILIJONGELE PHANTSI ISIKO LETHU MAXHOSA(YEHLISE ISIDIMA SETHU)
Posted by NOKUBULELA — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
BANTU BAKUTHI,ISIKO LAKWA-XHOSA ALENZIWA NJE.
INGENZIWA KANJANI INTO YOKUBA ELI SIKO LIPHUME KWI-MEDIA?
IZINTO EZENZIWA KWELI SIKO ZIYIMFIHLO.
KUTHENI LIZOVELA ELUBALA NGOLUHLOBO NJE?
KUKHO ABANTU ABANGALENZIYO,NABANGEKALENZI,NOBASE-TYHINI,BATHINI XA BEBONA IZINTO EZENZIWAYO EKWALUKENI?
UMZI WAKWA-XHOSA AWUVUMELANI NENTO EYENZEKAYO.
AMASIKO ETHU NIWAWISA PHANTSI MAWETHU.
THAT UMTHUNZI WENTABA THING CLOSED PLEASE
Posted by SANELE — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
Culture is not a static thing. If it was JZ would be calling for umkhonto wam and umshini wakhe would be in the hands of De la Rey.
Posted by moving on — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
Hey Unathi, thanks for taking on the hardcore stuff! I'm wondering if those of us without access to the "sacred Xhosa circumcision rite" get into a mess by focussing so much on the circumcision. Maybe this is because what happens during the rest of the four weeks is such a mystery to us? I , for one, am curious to understand the power and signicance of this process (even if I don't expect you to say anything more ;)
Posted by Curious — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
I think Umthunnzi Wentaba was a good idea.Children are dying up there.The secrecy needs to be revealed so that we find the solution to the problem.
Posted by Foschun Sotsu — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
the secrecy? 'Umthunzi...' was not aimed at revealing any secrecy - it was a subjectively levelled critical expose of the negative only. Children are dying because of untrained or fly-by-night practioners and ignorant parents (that's no secret) - 'Umthunzi...' was not going to show that, instead it was going to reinforce notions of the barbarism and backward nature of a culture so respectable...
They could have chosen a different angle, they just chose the sensationalist approach. the idea was good, trust me you didn't miss much by it's cancellation...
Posted by unathi — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
i think there r parts that we as Xhosa's have to look at in corresponding with isiko eli lethu like unqualified ngcibi's, amakhankatha angakhathaliyo and AIDS to say the least nokuziba kwamakhwenkwe and other things nje ngamaXhosa sodwa
Posted by phumlani — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
hey unathi my bro unyanile these other people should leave our culture as it is but i have to admit there r people that r making our culture look back.
Posted by want it! — 10 Sep 2007, 19:44
Yes!da drama is back makwedini.I neva noticed the producer is a woman.Good move sisi- we need to know these things.What's all the secrecy anyway?
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